The Gospel is forgiveness and reconciliation. Bob asked me to remove that message, but, I completely agree. The victim wife of another scandal set up camp at a near by church SO if anyone can recommend a smaller church, please let me know. Bob Coy, Pastor of Florida's Calvary Chapel Megachurch - HuffPost Is it like a day or is a day like a 1,000 yrs? Did Pastor Fidel Gomez know anything? In another, he called adultery "the ultimate betrayal of trust in human relationship" and cautioned that "repentance is not just being sorry that you were caught.". "I can't discuss it on the record," he said, before adding cryptically: "If you're foolish enough to go through with this story it would hurt a lot of people.". Anyone can read it and see what was said. Plus, listen to Greg Laurie talk about the situation on Pastors Perspectiveclearly the moral failure wasnt that Coy was driving solo in the carpool lane. Join Facebook to connect with Diane Coy and others you may know. This moral failing must be big and bad or its disclosure is an attempt to try to avoid something worse. Two of my three children still struggle with doubt in their faith and I can not believe our experience didnt have something to do with it. May I test you on this? I would imagine if Chuck Smith were around he would probably have Coy restored in about 3 months. Hes on the radio and all around the world. This sorrow proceeding merely from the fear of punishment, is called legal repentance, as being excited by the terrors of legal penalties, and it may exist without an amendment of life. Those in his wake need compassion. Did he leave the country? Not a witch hunt at all. Im sure he sins just like the rest of us. Youve turned the sad reality of sin into flaming arrows of hate and spite towards eachother instead of being Christ-like and loving the sinner (everyone). Shouldnt these posts be cathartic? In 1968, he moved to California building hot rods by day and working as a machinist at Disneyland during the night. And if you read June one of the comments I believe she really got it right. Thanks. He got the idea from Andy Stanley to do satellite churches. Is Israel becoming a nation not a fulfillment of prophecy? If so, what so called ministry does Bob demonstrate fidelity in that he can be restored to? Im not giving him a pass, not at all, hes absolutely called to a higher standard. There is another one in Daniel 3 He ordered the furnace heated seven times more than it was usually heated. Now according to your view of numbers in Daniel, they would need to check the temperature with their thermometer and raise the thermostat from 400 degrees to 2,800 degrees. Many members expressed disappointment, encouragement, and hope on the church's Facebook page. Mary! I have no use for Macarthur but the info on your links is bogus. If you believe that the posting of any material infringes your copyright, be sure to contact us through the contact form and your material will be removed! Sorry Michael force not biting my tongue harder and spoiling your thread. calvaryftl.org is wasting no time wiping out the name of Bob Coy from their webpage. Is your information reliable? "We loved him because of his realness. Lets come together as a body and shame the devil. maybe you could pray for everyone and call it a day. 326 MICHAEL WHO MADE YOU MESSENGER?????????? I hear the CC folks come on hear and proclaimwell were all sinners and only Jesus was perfect!yet they give Jesus-like powers to their Pastor rock star leaders in the form of the Moses Model where the Senior Pastor has all the power. No thanks. Want me to tell you the amount of their FPL bill? The ecstasy of the evil one, and the sighing of the Lord begin with the actual sins of the pastor and the unfathomable wreckage now in the wake. Is it ok, in your world view, that I feel a profound sadness at the pain and destruction his betrayal has caused him and those in his universe? That is a myth that needs to be wiped out. You, on the other hand, seem to have difficulty. CC has produced a lot of strong Christian leaders but if the wound one might carry had left a scar that is so spiritually disfiguring that it would prevent personal growth then I would agree dont return there but please seek somewhere else. The church is over 2000 years old. Back to our topic But your logic is skewed. As planned, Jake was going to donate a kidney to her. So, the next time she walks by, dont give a 2nd glance. RiBo, Im with Michael on this one too.maybe they are calling in moral failure so he can be back in the saddle in a few months.though with his name on the deed and the book sales, he may not even care.set for life. At times like this we as Christians need to be more like Jesus and have lots of compassion towards a man who at least for me taught me how to have a true relationship with God and no one can take that away from Bob. I should not even have put that but I couldnt resist it, him and his 10 million dollar estate. With the latest revelations on child molestation, Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale posted on Tuesday the following statementin response to the allegations: "Our church was saddened to hear of the allegations made against Bob Coy years after his resignation and departure as senior pastor. But the report is true, the blog host reported accurately and now that the rest of the media is reporting the same thing, these voices have quieted down and are left to the long task of relating to a new devastating reality. This situation needs wisdom, prayer, and inordinately strong men/women to hold their course and see this thing through. CC will be ok, they will experience a separation of the wheat from the chaff which is healthy the sad part is there will be a number that like Peter will go back fishing but even they will not be lost if their heart truly is the Lords. David did not have the risen Jesus supposedly living in his heart, nor the power and anointing of the holy spirit that they claim, as current day proponents of the good news. Dusty, sorry for shooting from the hip on that one. It's unclear how seriously they took the claim of the teenager whom New Times is not naming in accordance with our policy on reporting on victims of sexual abuse who said Coy had forced her to have sex even when she was only 4 years old. Someone else may have more info on this subject. Its all good. (All about keeping that large congregation I guess). God is able to do that. This blog has been around for many years, and many of the screen names you read are actually people well known to one another in the regular community here. It must and does operate by the same worldly standards as any other corporation. Also, there was the whole matter of Sharon not wanting to be revived in the event that something goes wrong, which enabled her to have more control over the outcome than it would have been possible otherwise. donny, I asked politely. The core issue is a sense of self oriented privilege that arises from the prestige and power. Hugh, Yeah, I agree completely with Neo, You really, really need a hug. By the same token, I like the debate but blame others . Michael, my cell phone is if You have anything youd like to say to me. 34 For David did not ascend into the heavens, but he himself says, The Lord said to my Lord, Sit at my right hand, 35 until I make your enemies your footstool., 36 Let all the house of Israel therefore know for certain that God has made him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom you crucified.. told you. Join the New Times community and help support In Coy's case, Bailey made a relatively unusual ruling: All financial documents would be kept secret. True repentance bears fruit. Thats over a half million, not including his church salary, book royalties and possible speaking fees. Now after commenting about 1st looks etc, I must confess that I have the hots for Stevie Nicks. Many of the next generation of customizers started their career with Coddington. And since you have it all sorted out there is no reason for anyone to talk to you about it. http://www.calvaryftl.org/about/pastorsstaff/pastors/# This is public and common knowledge and has been discussed and admitted from the pulpit I have been present when Fidel and Connie (Johns wife) admitted it to an audience. You are also agreeing to our Terms of Service and Privacy Policy. He has also been teaching for even longer that the blood of Jesus Christ has no power to save. Martin Luthers Disciple ~ Take heed proud guy, least you with all your proud grace fall also. Want it to stop. I listened to the message at calvary today. Whats the rationale for removing all of a guys teaching from the internet when he fails morally. I love the nuts. People have confused us before and want to make sure I am not associated with his strange ideas. We are all susceptible to temptation and sin until the day we are redeemed and changed incorruptible. Coy sales millions and that has all changed. I disagree with him on many points, but I will not slander him. I craved the emotional and physical support I wasnt getting. To bag on sisters and brothers who are as convinced of their conclusions as you are of yours is ungracious, short-sighted, erodes your credibility, and fosters division in the church. We are all vulnerable and weak!! in fact the lamb is lying with the lion, its to be taken spiritually. He toured the nation on Evangelical radio and TV shows, hung around with Billy Graham, and published books and CDs. No sin overtakes us, except what is common to man. This isnt about me, and by making it about me, you bear false witness and sin yourself. If it comforts you to think otherwise, thats not my problem. Boyd Coddington (August 28, 1944 February 27, 2008)[1] was an American hot rod designer, the owner of the Boyd Coddington Hot Rod Shop, and star of American Hot Rod on TLC. Cant seem to wonder if Pastor Clay knew something and that is why he resigned the end of last year. The women werent in a position of power and trust and in covenant with another woman. MLD, we are listening to the apostles. That is one more reason mega-anything can be so mega-bad for all believers who now have to explain this to the mockers and critics. With Jesus we called to personify everything,meaning we are to relate everything to the glory of God and to value the interests of others. He wrote a very good book, I Was Wrong in 1996. So now answer the question! We who are conservative Christians love to lecture the world about their sins. And I am not a Calvinist. (may be a bit more difficult as I am sure his stuff would fill a yacht if it indeed does not already include a yacht.. Evidently the vast reach doesnt include responsibility to inform all those reached.. It was not readily available. Just like you were proven wrong about the giving of the Holy Spirit requiring baptism. Read slowly. The ones with the largest pledge or most generous givers, got a more intimate dinner with DC and BC. A core of my current belief system is that none are truly transformed when they are saved. Chuck Smith did it to mehe got diagnosed with cancer a month laterdied a year later to the day. 7 Now when they have finished their testimony, the beast that comes up from the Abyss will attack them, and overpower and kill them. Have you wrote Bob ripping him for his sin and asking for proof of repentance? After what happened in the brand-new episode that aired on March 3, Is Diane Farr departing Fire Country? My step-dad CC pastorsame dynamic in play. They could not take the invasion of their religion as the king of Prussia made them worship with the Calvinists that another story. Who made you Coys torpedo? Many asked what where his motives for this if not selfish and serve serving and THAT is NOT of GOD!!!!!! He had a staff of 13. Notice how all Christians are all supposed to get along with one another, kumbayah, and yet when a (secondary?) Keep in mind what David was as a youth, A Shepherd, the leader of a flock. ", Anne Marie Giri, a churchmember who was present at the announcement, stated that although the she was disappointed, we must not put our faith in human beings. Youre a special woman. Refuse to let that man and his family go. May we be in prayer for him, lest we be found with that same measurement being measured back unto us. to 666/Bob we dont even know what the mark truly is some say it is symbolic, some say physical and some say mental:(. How pointing out all these passages that you freely spiritualize help your claim of a literal 1,000 yr earthly reign is beyond me. So how many women have you used and discarded to satisfy your lust? Heres another one of your blind spots, Lorenzo, the ravenous wolves that most of you have become.