Its difficult to see when glancing at the photo, because it looks like Kriss head is referencing something the ground. Basically, theres a lot of government corruption and poverty as a result. Looks like some of sort of indigenous artifact/trail marker. It is possible for incompetence to work in conjunction with interests to protect key industries. They are really good, especially parts 3 and 4, which give a lot of information about the girls photos. So if you look behind her bottom theres a patch of light which is the light at the other end of this tunnel and shes holding her right hand up to her face to sweep back a piece of hair. Tourists Who Stay in Panama Long Term Now Have to Leave for a Minimum I think its possible the red and black object is actually just a reddish-brown dead plant leaf jungle leaves can get rather large. This either meant Lisanne Froon was conscious while Kris was not, and tried to call emergency services, or that a third party tried to get into her phone but didnt succeed. Her hands could be tied behind her back but, if this is the case, then much computer editing was involved because other photos that come AFTER this one in camera sequence show Kriss walking ahead of Lisanne WITHOUT her hands tied behind her back. The night time photos are not relevant but the result of someone playing with the camera. Even on my iPhone I could make it big enough to see odd things in the pic. Search parties are looking for her. I would like to pick your brains on your thoughts about the night photos: 1. of SOS made with a white cloth, 2. the mirror on rock 3. In 2014 Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon, both from the Netherlands were traveling and exploring the Central American country of Panama. The main areas of tourism in the country focus on business tourism, beaches, health and trade. Hi Birgitte, thank you for your comment. Not getting any fingerprints looks suspect. Hi Em, thank you. I read that the backpack belonged to Lisanne Froon. The guide had something to do with the girls disappearance. Or another type of colorful animal found in the jungle? The blue object looks like it could be a crushed beer can. ), podran darnos explicaciones de la posicin del cuerpo, de las manos y la expresin del rostro en la foto 506. I prefer to think that the two girls had some sort of accident, still horrific but better than being murdered. There was enough evidence in this investigation to solve the case and possibly find Kris and Lisanne while they were alive. the only strange element in this photo is the distance. Panamas government is stuck in a desperate position. Hard noncontroversial evidence is very limited and what there is is open to interpretation. Perhaps incriminating photos existed on the camera before and new photos were taken to overwrite the cameras memory files, therefore preventing the old photos from being extracted from the cameras digital memory. They showed an incredibly brave independence which was repaid with murder. Why is no one talking about what appears to be a rock painting or a carving 3-4 feet in front of her? Take care. On the bottom right of the photo it looks as though her hair is wrapped around somebodys fingers, or rather someone has their fingers wrapped around her hair. On April 1, the 21-year-old and 22-year-old went for a walk . Small-town America no more? Tourism gains have made Panama City Beach Hi Oliver, I do believe that theres enough evidence to conclude that some of the photos were graphically edited (photoshopped) but I dont think this photo was manipulated. After taking a deep dive into all the evidence and flying out to Panama to do their own investigation, the pair concluded that the girls deaths were an accident. But there are a few holesin this particular theory. I wonder? From my understanding, there was no warning signs on the trail. We usually permit our commenters to publish links to external material, and you are welcome to do the same. I think the most important photos were not the daytime ones; I think the most important photos were some of the legible nighttime ones. They decided to take that short hike, but they failed to tell anyone where they were going and what time to expect them back. It even appears they have some kind tattoo on their back. Yes, you are right that a great deal of caution is necessary. Possibly that info can help. While posing with sticking out your tongue means for a Dutch native you found something disgusting, especially while simultaneously closing your eyes. A woman from the localNgbetribeturned in a blue backpack she claimed she found along the bankof a nearby river. Honestly Ive hiked by myself before on a well known trail by my college and when I saw the American flag waving in the middle of the woods I was more scared than anything!!! Any idea of the exact location where this picture is taken? Also, sometimes the investigations go dead because the government wants the story to go away in order for the tourist trade to not be hurt. Do they deal in weapons, drugs, porn? Since they were two young women from Europe, I can easily see the possibility that they offended the wrong man. Tourism generates profits of approximately US$1,400 million annually. Most of the bones were never found. Ive found that there are in fact two native type people visible in the night photos. And if other people learn too much, they get killed too. 100 calls to 911, and NOT ONE attempted call to immediate family? This photo of Kris Kremers is identified as Photo 505. For all that we know, it could be someone who works for the police who did this. Im curious. L&K photographed every part of the walk from the farm up to the summit; dog appears in none of their photos. Im considering putting together a research team to visit Panama and further investigate the details of the case interviews, videos, mapping terrain, etc. They talk as if it would be difficult to branch off the trail, but maybe they did not notice other paths that could have been taken? Hi Chris, to me the place Kris is in looks really spooky, but I also think it looks like the entrance to a cave. However, its still possible. That is not a cave or a ravine behind her. It does not make sense to me. They make no sense in spite of the speculation. Lets try one more time then (and please dont censor this, even if you think that it is not pretty murders rarely are! I think in the original photo she is putting on her backpack, stretching her arm and back, and the backpack has been airbrushed out because of course she didnt take that with her. Phone records. If you have any supplementary information regarding the case, or if you were involved in this case and feel that the information available in this article impacts your privacy, please contact our team. If the dog went with them, its likely that the girls would have taken a photo of the dog, even if the dog was in a photo accidentally. It looks like there may be some red on her face too or other markings. I just want to agree with Chris and the poster JW that she is shading her eyes with her right arm up. 1 reason tourists sometimes annoy residents. Does blue have something to do with this strange punishment ritual? The hanging object and other points of interest you highlighted reminded me of this. This service is provided on News Group Newspapers' Limited's Standard Terms and Conditions in accordance with our Privacy & Cookie Policy. There is no question thats what it is. I would like to know the answer to that question also. Instead, they think What words can I say to make my local population feel better? After all, locals elect these same authorities. From 508 onward. Again, these are just observations. So many clues in all these pictures. She is clearly shielding her eyes from the sun by holding her right arm up. How certain are we that they started at the trail head as we are told? Fortunately, I have that ability. Hi JW, yes I agree with you about many things. The removed comment provided nothing helpful in any respect, and was merely to get attention and reactions. Almost like some picture had been there and this posted over or just strange, almost satanic looking things. I think shes frightened, Not only does it look like her hands are tied behind her back,but if you zoom in on just her,her expression does not look happy at all,and she is looking off to somewhere beside the camera,she isnt even looking at the camera,and there appears to be blood in her hair on both sides of her head and her hair is clearly a mess.maybe this photo was taken after their captured, possibly by whoever captured them. The total number of people who have gone missing in Mexico since 2006 and have never been found stands at almost 87,855, according to the government from a report earlier this year. The green rock directly in front of Kris appears to float in space. Heres what I think happened. , I could be wrong but scanning through the comments didnt see some of these things being discussed, & thought Id put my 2 sense in! However, Dutch authors Marja West and Jrgen Snoeren claim they have solved the mystery in their bookLost in The Jungle. Kris Kremers, 21, and Lisanne Froon, 22, went for a walk through the scenic forests around the Baru volcano in Boquete - and never returned. Note the shadow across her face , covering her eyes: that is from her hand. Again NO SIGNAL! I believe that this case WILL be solved. His family told Fox News that he had been traveling by himself and he was in good health. Yo veo en el fondo de la foto 506, adjunto al muslo, la pierna y el pie izquierdo de Kris, una silueta de un hombre joven, con sombrero de copa alta y ala ancha (al estilo de los sheriff norteamericanos), con una manta blanca sobre sus hombros,tronco y brazos y un rifle o escopeta en posicin horizontal sobre sus manos. Some people believe the two girls got lost lost, some people believe the third-party theory and some people have mixed theories. Its possible theres a painted insignia on the post to right of Kris. How Many Tourists Have Gone Missing in Panama? Has anyone thought to look further into the hosts dog (Blue)? Thanks in advance! WHY? I believe that the LA Times article is more informative, so Ive updated the link in my writing above. He goes down some intriguing avenues which while I may not agree with either the direction or point have value because they stimulate me to think. As for the night pics Im going to also throw this one out there and say the photos were heavily darkened to take away what was really there in view and then the spotty weather areas were added over including the rain drops. Check out David Paulidess accounts of people who go missing every day in state parks. What I find most concerning is her face. I think Juantarctica made a compelling case on YouTube for this theory. Even the cheap pair of sunglasses are in perfect condition. It was the last time anyone saw the women alive. Regarding accidents (My father a doctor always said accidents do not exist. Also, I live in El Salvador, less than 1,000 kilometers from Panama, which has many cultural similarities. And the hair photo shows him holding Kris by the neck (you can see his fingers, one wearing a silver ring with faces engraved on it). I know that their camera and mobile phone photos have been analyzed a thousand times by various people online but I also know that many people arent able to enhance the brightness, contrast, exposure and saturation in a professional graphics program. By April 6, 2014, theparents of both women grew frantic andflew to Panama with detectives from the Netherlands. Her skin does not look pallid like that of a dead person, it is still pink. Was the reception that bad in those locations? Hi Mohaiminul, you mention some good questions. For the next three days she keeps moving, weakened by exposure to the elements and at the edge of starvation. if you break your ankle in a fall and die your foot is likely to be found IN the shoe as is what happened. I have watched so much about this case and this is the first time I have heard that the parents withheld photos. 4. Sometimes I refer back to the Story of Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon, the two girls that made international headlines in 2014 when they disappeared in the northwest region of Panama. Personally, I believe that number one mentioned above is the most likely reason. After frolicking in the sun and taking photos for a while they decided it was time to return home, BUT they had no idea where they entered the jungle so they could not find the way out of the jungle back go to the trail. I think murder is quite likely. Could be that the path turns sharp right or left (out of the frame) or continues up ahead after a short scramble. That looks kinda like a monster, Very interesting and thorough analysis. The relationship between pets and owners is different in Central America than in developed countries. They knew to be on guard and be careful. Im sitting here, with tears in my eyes and rolling down my cheeks.The transition from two weeks of lively holiday to stepping into the life of a real Panamanian family is just too much for me I want MOM and dad to hold me tight and tell me that everything will be alright I now feel like a small child of 2 yelling for her mother who is 2 meters away. This connected callwas stable for roughly two seconds. But during my time spending a year there in 2015 (at the time Id not heard of this case), I had asked around about legends within the jungle and there is in fact legends from tribes who never interacted and are thousands of miles apart which regress of some THING that comes from the sky or trees that is not visible to humans but devours then to the bone. This whole incident is the stuff of horror movies and very chilling, even if it was an accident. Perplexing to say the least. I also see the handing ornament, whatever that is called and definitely a roof structure with leaves and branches above her. The police, the media attention, the suspicions on him. The Missing Panama Girls: A Closer Look At One Photo And one of the branches near the middle appears to have scales or a pattern not natural to a tree branch. Sue and Dennis Borries are pictured in an undated image. There were no signs at that time. Vittorio Caruso. I read that the dog returned to town in the evening, alone, but I havent seen it in any pictures. The date read April 1, the day of their fateful hike. I was surprised to learn that. The simplest is for them to disappear. They came to learn a language and embrace a culture. If a cave was found that would be big news and there could be DNA evidence inside it. Also, it wouldnt make sense if Lisanne didnt know Kris password. No way would I walk down that path. December 20, 2022. But what if that is what led them off track ? Matts article about the daytime photos (link), https://voyager.lupomesky.cz/kremers-froon/kris-gully-3composite.jpg, https://koudekaas.blogspot.com/2019/12/the-disappearance-of-kris-kremers-and_11.html, https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CJKQMGxJ1Kc/XH7ld3XtSnI/AAAAAAAAjOg/kechIb5Cge8msf5kRVinBCrEjIiBCl7TwCLcBGAs/s1600/7reCdlm.jpg, https://www.laestrella.com.pa/nacional/141020/of-piece-medical-studies-examiner, https://koudekaas.blogspot.com/2019/12/the-disappearance-of-kris-kremers-and.html, Kris Kremers Case: The People Involved (Reference Guide), New Case Data: Night Photo EXIF Temperatures, Video Footage: El Pianista Complete Trail Hike, Canadas Freedom Convoy Raises Millions On GiveSendGo, Panama Expedition 2021 Complete Overview, Disappearance Stories A Word Of Caution, Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon (Case Articles), 18 Critical Tips for Traveling Central America. For pareidiologists, in the Cave photo on the right just over halfway from Kris head to the edge of the photo there is an arm and hand tied to a tree, and to the right of Kris leg is the sole of a walking boot with a light stripe down the middle. And I think that sunlight she is trying t avoid also is the reason for her facial expression. OmgIm staring at this pic. You can find more information about on this article: https://imperfectplan.com/2021/02/24/kremers-froon-new-case-data-timestamps-of-missing-daytime-photos/. A desperate search for the students was launched, with rescue workers combing through the jungle and nearby villages. They want to protect their tourism industry but they also dont have the resources to effectively stop gang violence. However, when theres monetary interests involved, especially within key industries I give those ulterior motives some weight and consideration. (From our perspective to the right of her directly in front of her feet about waist high). https://postimg.cc/94q0cVhH. The circular part looks like vines to me, but the portion in the middle has potential to be a cow skull. One or more abductor did know the phone PIN but not all people involved knew. There is nothing ominous or cause for concern in this particular pic. A wave of deadly exorcisms have griped the country, under the guise of religion, at the hand of a death cult. I find it odd that the young American girl was murdered not long after this not far away as with the taxi driver who was found depended likely murdered. To me it looks like the chopped off end of a thick tree branch. We can only speculate without more evidence of that. If I saw a cow skull hanging in a tree I would get the hell out of there, not pose for a photo. She has no idea that her parents are about to arrive in Panama. Incredible work and interest- level regarding the fate of these human spirits. The last set of pics is especially chilling to me, my first thought was Lisanne may have been bound & hurt & somehow able to gain access to the camera & made a last attempt to signal for help or document everything around her as best she could & thats why all the angles are so awkward & unfocused. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=kris+and+lisanne++finanli. If it is a photo-op, why is Kris not waving her hands or something. Are you familiar with the Koude Kaas blogs about this case? Nobody is safe. The roof or cover is not substantial enough to keep out rain but it could work as camouflage from the air. Hi Lisa, I wrote an in-depth analysis of Kriss bones here: The government officials involved failed at providing a thorough analysis/evaluation. They may not have even know what they were doing, taking pictures, if they werent familiar with technology, and tossed the phone again at some point for the girls to grab to attempt the emergency calls and taken it back at some point after. On March 14, 2014, students LisanneFroon and Kris Kremers traveled from the Netherlands to Panama, where they intended toassistlocal communities, volunteerwith children, learnSpanish, and relax a bit. THANK GOD SOMEONE IS SEEING WHAT I SEE. But, Who took the photos on later dates? On closer inspection this and the cave photo appear heavily manipulated. Out of respect for the girls families, I think that comments like this, which I argue turn this case into some sort of entertaining Netflix series, should be removed. At that time, she had her phone. Bright sunlight is coming in from the left side of the photo, so Kris holds her flattened right hand up to her face to shield her eyes, similar to a salute. They were obviously following a trail, and most trails are made by humans, so human presence would be expected, I think. It took us quite some time to get there.". Despite the heat and humidity, Panamanians wear long pants and closed-toe shoes. A year later, two tourists following the same trail are robbed at gunpoint. And more to the right of the insignia, is that water, an underground river maybe, there is like a light at the end. Latin America has tens of thousands of small communities, all of which operate slightly differently to some degree. Perhaps this stranger had suggested he could guide them on a more interesting trail, or show them something interesting in the jungle. Problem with that is that you would think they would simply turn round once they realised. But in the last year, several mass graves have been unearthed, revealing to the world a dark practice of human sacrifice which is thriving in the jungles of Panama. And hen you have body parts belonging to other persons also found with these girls. Kremers and Froon set out into the forest along thePianista Trail around 11 amon April 1, 2014,with only a backpack between them. Lisanne's bones appeared as if they had decomposed naturally - but Kris' bones were mysteriously stark white as if they had been bleached, raising questions about whether someone had been involved in her death. Jalisco prosecutors said that three people still seem to be missing after a gang kidnapped a group of tourists at the Pacific resort of Puerto Vallarta earlier this month. However there appear to be yellowish/beige shadows and it looks like a sandstone cliff. U.S. Travel Ban: This Is How It's Costing Europe Billions Can anybody see that? Because of thedark, the pairmight have usedthe camera flash as a light sourceor to scare away animals. Also why make them at night and not during the day? Hope there will be a reasonable explanation to everything one day. According the guidance given to the US Embassy, immigration officials will require tourists who leave the country to stay a minimum of 30 days outside of the country before reentering. I do believe that this appears to be some sort of structure though, it does seem like some vines / branches have been woven together to form some sort of hut and even the AI enhancement would not make the blue appear on the floor so distinctly, the color and look almost reminds me of a scrap of denim like material? It isnt a cave, somebody has shown in a youtube video that it us just a very deep path on the wrong side of the mountain with a sharp turn. At the beginning of this video I think I see some blue dye/paint/powder on one of the mens legs and something blue on the floor. Also right inside the cave looks like a fox or something similar is painted on the rock. But dogs in Latin America tend to roam around and go wherever they want theyre very free here. All of it couldve just gone away.? The girls phone records later showed that they started making their initial distress calls on their cell phones approximately 2 hours and 45 minutes after their last known daytime photo (Photo 508). However, according to the Daily Beast: We now know that more than two dozen other victims also were reported in the same region of Panama, including a young woman from the United States found murdered earlier this year. From 2017 . Perhaps someone has just hit Kris on the right side of her head and she is putting her hand up to where it hurts. CARACAS, Venezuela -- Few Venezuela ns have not had their lives touched by migration over the last decade, when more than 7 million people left the country amid a political . In 2020 the number of international visitors to Australia dropped to 6.7 million due . They do nothing to further discourse surrounding this tragedy and only attract people who think its fun to join in with conspiracies about the deaths of these two very real girls with very real families (who are suffering tremendous heartbreak). The point-and-shoot camera numbers its files in ascending order, the way most digital cameras do. Perhaps he gave some other persons a lift with the girls as is one of the stories out there. Totally agree, Alexis. Would they really have gone along a dark spooky ravine, which is obviously a dead end, if they were trying to find their way back to Boquete? So I see men in the cave. Hi Chris..I just came across this story yesterday and it was really sad and disturbingI hope the truth comes out too. exactly, you are very right about the shape of her arms and facial expression. I agree that her hands look like they are over head. He threatened them with a machete, and led them to a sacrificial alter. Hi Marie, Theres no evidence that points to the dog being with them. Hi Joseph, Thanks for your comment. Even rainwater gets heavy enough to destroy electronics inside of a backpack yet that didnt happen. Sadly, shortly after, she meets someone she fears and call the police. She ties the red bags to branches so they can spot her if they get near. Theres no telling how many people touched it before the police got it. An explosion in tourism has saved Iceland's economy. Panamanian screwed up the investigation monumentally, but I would think that the private detectives followed up all the leads: after all, they were getting paid a lot of money for it. The dog ran away and they followed it into the woods to try to get it back? Still creepy though. Can you provide more information about photos of the girls being in bad shape? Think about it. What is peculiar is that there were no attempts to contact anyone other than the emergency services. There IS anecdotal info that Lisannes BF made contact with her at 1400 or so on the 1st April but maybe that was Dutch time not Panama time? she does see something disgusting. I see the nose and mouth and possibly and eye, like they were trying to hide from the girls or camera and peaking behind branches creepy. A path looks different anyway when you walk back the other way so they would not be aware they were not heading the right way and carried on. . Teams investigatedfor 10 days; their hunt scaled down on April 14, 2014, though continued on for 10more weeks. There is an illustration drawn on Kriss back in the hair photo.