Yes, typically very short drivers of the ball are better iron players or wedge players. we never play for money. Someone will probably come in and explain what he should do to improve those numbers.. Callaway Paradyme Tensei 1K 70 The AMA has an average club speed of 93.4 mph and an average total distance of 214 yards. I'm not going to wear my body down trying to swing that club. yfvp
~ AnFVS0Y")Mb@3PNm[GVI=! [/color] 52* & 58* Callaway MD2 // S-300 I stressed this to my fitter - make sure you talk to them about your golf as they are only seeing a small sample of your game. Not sure how you measure it down to the exact yard on an average driving range. I bet your average golfer on your average course doesnt hit more than 160-175. Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. Don't doubt the ability of some people to produce similar numbers to the pros. I, and many amateur golfers I play with on a regular basis, have the ability to hit the ball a long way. Skill Triumphs Over All! This promotes a lower ball flight and is seen by tour players as being a more accurate shot than having the ball float into the air. Of course touring pros are way better than everyone at all facets of the gamethat's why they're out making millions while a bunch of us have idiotic debates over the Internet. Most of the guys I play/practice with are +2 to 5 handicaps. I prefer 120-160 yards, so I try my best to play to that yardage on par 4's. Id estimate the average tour player will hit their basic solid drive between 295-310 under neutral conditions. I appreciate your thoughts, great article. I bet a lot of my tee shots find the rough though. Here are Tiger's averages for this season on shots that were measured: Launch Angle 11.28 Shaft: Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW Blue 75 TX, Hybrid: Titleist TSi2 (21 degrees) Or the public course in Lenoir, NC? #:>PC"ljTTZ!@8[+D py"4]F: }X@`*0gIiF1|fv3cp{c?9EkD!j> Vokey inspect all wedges individually but do recommend you look to change wedges after 75 rounds in order to keep the spin rate at its optimum. #TeamTrackMan Their delivery will be erratic and Vokey is a bladed wedge which offers little help in the forgiveness department. When it comes to talking about distance in golf the easiest and most obvious place to start is of course always with the longest club in the golf bag the driver. By Of course, playing shorter courses seems very obvious if you want to improve performance. I am disabled now and dont play at all but i had a spinal fusion and two rods put in my back when i was a teenager. Lj\gUk':Q9d P\Ko?#sU;:MRk;'FTz![]wJQRL/"&Xp]q%F"S4y_fY;<5PemA,YosVrs>l6:cc Firstly there is really no need to play an 8 iron that long, secondly why on earth would you play nothing but trap draws especially with short iron Top 100 Player Analysis. Titleist fitting last summer at my home course. Another added complication when it comes to comparing the distances that the pros hit their wedges is the differing lofts each of them often carries for seemingly the same club. In my experiences wedges can be the least searched review on YouTube and some of the worst fitting processes. Or when hazards are present, it may be even wiser to aim for the opposite edge of the green. Great read with invaluable data and information. Shafts: Project X 125 6.5 (46), Project X 120 6.0 (52-60), Putter: Scotty Cameron 009 =t 'BRvGGs.Du="dP0 J/%
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[quote name='govols' timestamp='1364404259' post='6707501'] I wouldn't take a trackman stat to the bank. Am I as good as tour pro? Ive tried lots of different woods shafts and lengths but seem to reach a ceiling on distance. Top 100 PGA Tour Player Analysis, What Clubs Do LPGA players use? Ive played four rounds since reading this, and shot 81, 83, 79, and 78. The AMA has an average club speed of 93.4 mph and an average total distance of 214 yards. Unlock the POWER Muscles in Your Golf Swing! Thankfully also the SM9s dont seem to be ripping the cover off your ball, but looking at the Trackman numbers the backspin was high which you'd expect from the milled grooves. It has to do with my ability. I take most info in many sections of this board with a grain of salt. Before it is assumed that the AMA should simply club up, actual distances with each club should be determined. FYI I hit my drive 240-250 he often hits is way past me from the whites. Because winning money, titles, and shooting low scores doesnt involve all that much power hitting, especially with the irons. I think it would be awesome to see if any of the numbers change due to the new developments. I can hit the ball a long ways, that doesn't make me full of bs. The way forward has to be more tighter averages with the driver maximising my best yardage from the swing speed I have. Clear editor. 14* SLDR // Speeder 8.3x That smash factor surprises me a bit. The driver is almost always the most talked about golf club in everyone's bag. Not at all. why you did not work that out or your friends did not suggest it I dont know. The above statements were [i]only[/i] about length. [/quote] Progressive Centre of Gravity - Maintaining the lower CG in the stronger lofts, while raising CG even further in the more lofted clubs. Total Distance Efficiency 2.484 The fairways where I play are very firm and I get a fair amount of roll. I guess what Im saying is if you dont hit the ball straight consistently and you dont make good, clean contact consistently, it would be silly to focus on things like swing speed/distance. I don't measure my driver distance. NOW AVAILABLE: GolfWRX G/Fore Hats and Holderness & Bourne Polos! Take Bubba for example who can increase his AoA to 5-6 and hit balls 350 yards in the air when screwing around on the range however on the course he hardly does that. Overall I cant fault these wedges for an elite player as we are aware of the slight differences of feel at strike, flight and contact with the ground. Shafts: Project X 125 6.5, Wedges: Titleist Vokey Design SM9 (46-10F @46.5, 52-08F @51.5, 56-10S @55.5), Titleist Vokey Design WedgeWorks Proto (60.5 T) At the Sony Open, Thomas became the youngest player to shoot 59 on the PGA TOUR and broke the TOURs 72-hole scoring record by a stroke. How Far Should You Hit a Driver? Especially when they was no other golfers in sight. Youd be correct and that is why its always best to get fitted and discuss purchases with your pro. While these yardages will give you a general guide as to how far pros hit their wedges it is important to remember how particular all the pros are about these clubs especially. They think that a drives are always over 320, which they are not not even close. The following graph shows the distribution of AMA Driver club speeds. You could take my woods and irons and pair it with Phil's wedge play and Stricker's putter and I'd be an average PGA tour player. Having the ability to hit it the ball as far as they can has nothing to do with me thinking highly of myself. Lol, so true.. This is the site where we share everything we've learned. I have also never heard a beginner or poorer striker of the golf ball say I need to lower my ball flight which is what these are said to do. Although there is a slow trend towards improvement, many in the golf industry wonder why progress has not been faster. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364403614' post='6707409'] [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364403614' post='6707409'] That's what I think. When it comes to his mid-irons he hits his 6-iron and 7-iron 195 and 180 yards. Odyssey Metal X Milled #1. G.O.A.T.? Trap draw? That's not Justin, that's Johnny. You cannot paste images directly. Shafts: Nippon N.S. This is something Butch Harmon has been trying to get Danielle Kang to do for a few years because it simplifies the shot and you can go at the flag more. [url="http://www.rotaryswing.com/golf-instruction/golfequipment/golf-launch-monitor.php"]http://www.rotaryswinch-monitor.php[/url] Driver: Charles Kelley whats in the bag accurate as of the Pebble Beach Pro-Am. Oddly, I bet you find that you do NOT score significantly better than your handicap even though the distances are short. He is 180 ball speed off the driver with outstanding launch numbers. Those numbers seem about right. Not uncommon these days for elite swing speed You're delusional if you think any amateur on WRX that claims to have similar numbers to the longer pros thinks they are also as good as a tour pro. My taylermade aero burner average distance is 330 yards on a good day 364 yards. Its Not About the Equipment. There are three finishes available in SM9: Tour Chrome (matte), Brushed Steel (shiny) and Jet Black (matte). My average driver distance over 2 full rounds it 223 yards and that includes the one or two bad shots off the box that only goes 100 plus yards just above the red Ts . 2 were over 320. I hit the same. Spin: 3811. My time spent on the driving range tells me there are a lot of guys hitting 100 yards, 125, 150, 175a few hitting 190.and an even smaller number hitting over 200. Thanks this will help my golf game so much now. The ball shoots from the face and you lose the control of the ball. [/quote] I would say probably is bs. Graeme started playing golf when he was only 4 years old and has loved the game ever since. Callaway XR Pro (20) Diamana White 90X While golf has given Justin a career he thoroughly enjoys, he knows the life lessons golf can provide. If it was published in a journal as well, please could you direct me to where I could find it. On average PGA pros hit a 3-iron a carry distance the distance from strike to point of ground impact of 217 yards. I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. TaylorMade Stealth+ 8 w/ PX Handcrafted Prototype EvenFlow Black 65 6.5, TaylorMade SIM ROCKET 14.5 w/ PX Handcrafted EvenFlow Black 75 6.5, TaylorMade SIM 18 Tour Issue w/ PX Handcrafted EvenFlow Black 75 6.5, TaylorMade SIM 2 Max Rescue 3-19 w/ PX RDX Smoke 90 6.5, TaylorMade SIM 2 Max Rescue 4-22 w/ PX RDX Smoke 90 6.5, Srixon ZX7 6-AW w/ Nippon Modus Tour125 Stiff It's the short game. [/quote] [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Average Distance - 302 yards[/background][/size][/color] [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364416375' post='6708959'] Justin is committed to showing benevolence and grace to children in need, with the goal of bolstering their confidence, strengthening their determination, and allowing them great possibilities. Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. The attention to detail from Bob Vokey is extraordinary and you can feel the change in strike as you try many different heads. The longest player hits it 320 yards Fan Mail Justin Thomas Scotty Squareback and Odyssey OG #7, Srixon ZX5 MKII Irons 4-PW Like New and a Titleist U505 4 Iron, OG Nike TW13 PING i59 irons Vessel Stand bag (trade). But if you can hit it 275 on your home muni track, that is at least 290 on a tour track with manicured fairways and perfect level tee boxes to hit from. Granted, their handicaps are high, but it gives a lot of support to what Mr. Pelz has been telling us all these years. I, and many amateur golfers I play with on a regular basis, have the ability to hit the ball a long way. But he does not average those. It doesn't take a genius to figure that one out. Jordan Spieth WITB 2021 (May Charles Schwab Challenge), Jordan Spieth WITB: 2020 Farmers Insurance Open, Jordan Spieth winning WITB: 2022 RBC Heritage, WITB Time Machine: Jordan Spieths 2015 John Deere Classic winning WITB. They hit 4-irons 208 yards and 5-irons 199 yards on average. [/quote] I need to know few things before buying. Hi I have always had an out to in swing until recent. Cobra Aerospeed 3W Kai'Li White In 2019, he launched the Justin Thomas Foundation, aimed to help military families, junior golf and children in need. Once you except your limitations, you can get out and enjoy the game we LOVE instead of loathing it. Unless you're using the ball you play with every round, in the different conditions you play in, the numbers on the Trackman are null and void. Im a 9 handicap wanting to get into the low single digits. The goals of the Justin Thomas Foundation reflect the altruistic aspirations of the Thomas family. It has to do with my ability. In other words the distance from where they hit the ball to the point of impact on the ground. Thomas is also only 1 of 6 players in PGA Tour history with 15 victories and 2 Majors before his 30th birthday, joining Jack Nicklaus, Johnny Miller, Tom Watson, Rory McIlroy and Tiger Woods. I blame it on TV coverage. Impacting the game through junior golf programs has always been an important part of his charitable giving.