(d2) There was another prowler, who decided not to come forward for whatever reason. >>In article <330642@worldnet.att.net>, "Robert C. Miller">> wrote: >>>Despite all the crap about this "having to be" a rage killing, it was >>>done by a group of people, people who know how to kill with knives. (b) It is not unreasonable to think that the evidence gloves are not OJ's (they didn't fit, and MacDonell's glove shrinkage experiment suggests that they wouldn't shrink significantly) AND OJ just happened to lose, throw away, give away, or otherwise get rid of the gloves he wore in Winter of 1994 AND nobody but him could confirm that. >: Scott Matteson wrote:>: --snip-->: > Once more, if they were really after Ron, why did they attack Nicole>: > first? When he refused, one of the men shot Nigg in the head. If Simpson somehow in the small area managed to hide from Goldman's view and then jumped him from behind, how come the controlling cuts, and the defensive wounds from the killer in the front, and the cut on the boot as if he kicked away the blade. An O.J. [4], Authors Donald Freed and Raymond Briggs claimed in Killing Time (1996), their book about the Simpson case, that an unnamed source told them that while Nigg had lived in Colorado, he was known to law enforcement there to be "involved in the narcotics culture" in Aspen (where another branch of Mezzaluna is located) and Denver. This design borrows more from traditional ulu knives than traditional mezzalunas, but both designs make use of a curved blade. Mezzaluna Pizzeria & Restaurant 4.5 47 Reviews $30 and under Italian Top Tags: Neighborhood gem Innovative Good for groups Putnam County's Destination for a Premium Manhattan-style Italian Restaurant Make a reservation 2 people Date Time Dec 1, 2022 7:00 PM Find a time Order delivery or takeout Takeout (845) 279-1800 View all details He said a photograph could have been taken at an>angle and they would have gotten a clear shot of it. Nobody cares what you think about Fred Goldman. Slashed throats. On Thursday, February 13, 1997 at 2:00:00 AM UTC-6, Noah's Dove wrote: On Friday, February 14, 1997 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-5, djd wrote: Most of the waiters working at the Mezzaluna were moonlighting as drug dealers. Killing of Michael Nigg - Wikipedia .FIYolDqalszTnjjNfThfT{max-width:256px;white-space:normal;text-align:center} (c) The real killer made the thumps when he came to set OJ up. They got caught by a fluke, but of course, you all dont believe the facts, you want oj to be the killer!albert walker jr, >> How did OJ's blood get at the scene and in his Bronco?>>>you have been told sixteen times, the dna came back as simpsons,>because the samples marked for those places were substituted for >blood taken from OJs drive and foyer. On July 30, 1993, eleven months before the famous double murder, Ron Goldman's friend Brett Cantor was killed with a knife in a manner identical to Ron and Nicole: from behind and across the throat and stabbed repeatedly on the arms and chest. Why because Ron Goldman's 3 best friends were killed or > >murdered right after Ron's death. Until then, stay safely in your pro-murderer dream world and don't let that sunlight of reality in to blind you if you can help it, Lucy.Don't talk to me about "EVIDENCE" backing up your fantasies because there is none. Or an intentional substitution for swatches occurred. memento seekers were all about buying the Mezzaluna menus, paintings, and more, so they could have a piece of '90s history and even before the closing and the auction, patrons were walking out with silverware and matchbooks as souvenirs, according to the Times. ._3-SW6hQX6gXK9G4FM74obr{display:inline-block;vertical-align:text-bottom;width:16px;height:16px;font-size:16px;line-height:16px} ._3K2ydhts9_ES4s9UpcXqBi{display:block;padding:0 16px;width:100%} He likely thought Oj did it, but he did not have enough information to make the decision to plant the glove at 5AM. > Exact same size and style of shoe, huh? The owner is very friendly and makes you . He didn't have the evidence until it was presented. I never believed OJ didn't do the murders and this new information is mind blowing. Murder of Michael Nigg, who worked at the same restaurant at as Ron 1. >Your choice. One was killed in the same manner as : Ron Goldman and Nicole. Damn, I hope you aren't really stupid enough to believe that nonsense.You or that brain-dead Freed guy concocted this idiotic story basedonly on the supposed fact that a blood drop might possibly be interpretedto "prove" that Ron was standing when Simpson stabbed him and also whileSimpson stabbed Nicole. You'd rather, > works in the Mezzaluna Restaurant or at least he is the one that gave the, > someone tell me why he latched on to OJ right from the start as being the, > turned his son down when he needed help because he had to declare. None of us we making anymore then $1000 a week as waiters at that time in 1994 era. A neighbor who lived nearby on Gorham Avenue in Brentwood said Goldman was struggling to make the rent until he got a new job this year as a waiter at Mezzaluna, an upscale restaurant. Because OJ's former physician must have provided the killers with a sample of OJ's blood. : **************************************************************************: *******************: Because my friend, they knew Ron wouldn't go there first but they knew he: would end up there. >On Fri, 14 Feb 1997 08:12:39 -0500, al walker >wrote: >>> How did OJ's blood get at the scene and in his Bronco?>>>>, >>you have been told sixteen times, the dna came back as simpsons,>>because the samples marked for those places were substituted for >>blood taken from OJs drive and foyer. And where is the evidence of OJ's having ever owned Bruno Magli's? Proof please. BBB Rating A+ Cuisines: Deli, Mediterranean, Caterers, Sandwiches, Take Out, Italian, European, Continental, Pizza. Why did some blood from the notch of the Rockingham glove match Simpson? Many working at Mezzaluna were involved with the Mafia and/or the drug trade. There is: no motive and no hard evidence. Michael Nigg (April 28, 1969 - September 8, 1995) was an aspiring actor who worked as a waiter at a Beverly Hills restaurant. There was Michael Nigg, a waiter at the Mezzaluna who was driving a Mercedes was gunned down in one of those LA robberies (like Ennis Cosby) where the person is gunned down without anything being taken. Matt Berendt Person. If only the murders in which the killer's clothes and weapons were available for examination could be solved then our streets would be teeming with murderers like Butch Simpson. Have you excluded contamination? He was never interviewed by police. Maybe it was his girlfriend's. The white vehicle seen by Heidstra might be unrelated, and even if it wasn't, it must have left after the thumps (placed at 10:40) anyway, so (d1) The killer(s) had an accomplice who remained at Rockingham, so they knew OJ didn't have an alibi when they framed him. At the : time of the murder of Ron -- he was having financial problems. So, is Mezzaluna Trattoria still open? For the fallacious pro-murderers who close their eyes to the truth, they can envision (or wish away) anything they want. : arde@idt.net wrote:: : Scott Matteson wrote:: : --snip--: : > Once more, if they were really after Ron, why did they attack Nicole: : > first? If OJ didn't make the thumps on the wall of Kato Kaelin's room, who did? Prove that it didn't. In 1997, the Los Angeles Times reported that Mezzaluna had closed, because business had suffered due to "the media and star-gazing frenzy" that came from O.J. Remember that Keith Zlomsowitch took off for Florida. One of them did it. [6], Possible connection to O. J. Simpson murder case. : >I acknowledge nothing of the sort. time of the murder of Ron -- he was having financial problems. Have a little respect for the opinions ofothers -- or at least have something less insulting and moreintelligent to say! . But that's not exactly surprising, since Mezzaluna was also known to be one of the hubs for buying drugs in Brentwood. Just one of his practical jokes that went too far. On the night after the killing, Nigg's friends gathered in the parking lot for a candlelight vigil. : Glad to see that you at least acknowledging that one person wasn't able : to control and slay two people at the exact same time. Once more, if they were really after Ron, why did they attack Nicole first? > >So OJ is probably innocent of the murders. * -------------------The alt.fan.oj-simpson FAQ--------------------- ** Q1: Did that lying, wife-beating, thieving scumbag Simpson do it? The socks with blood on them? Why not get him walking home from >Mezzaluna? : : : The news report was that THE LA POLICE said that Nicole was probably at: : : the wrong place at the : : : wrong time. He had to pin thanguilt on someone and it was OJ. Simpson later decided to cover for Arnelle and her "date" (whom she never named). No other suspects have ever been identified, and the killing remains unsolved.[3]. acquitted of charges in the deaths of Nicole Brown Simpson, O.J. : Subject: : MEZZALUNA CONNECTION--RON GOLDMAN: Date: : Mon, 25 Nov 1996 23:00:13 -0800: Newsgroups: : alt.journalism,altcurrent-events.usa,talk.politics.guns, : 11/25/96 AT 10:20 pm ON CHNL 13 UPN LOS ANGELES. The connection is that they all worked at Mezzaluna. He was later found liable in the deaths in a civil suit brought by the Brown and Goldman families. He speculated that Nicole had been planning to open a restaurant of her own using proceeds from cocaine sales. The stories do not prove OJ is innocent. During the trials, Brentwood took center stage in every timeline and its highlighted locations like Nicole's condo and the O.J. That was in September 1995, so it >wasn't Simpson on that one. The killer left his shoeprint. He also held a similar position at the Aspen Mezzaluna. Chose the house made wild mushroom Arancini appetizer. and Nicole, Mezzaluna was the Brentwood Italian restaurant, "Guilty" signs hanging outside on the trees by Mezzaluna, Goldman left Mezzaluna to deliver the lost prescription glasses. Mezzaluna restaurant is a great place to visit. At the time the glove was found at Rockingham, Furhaman did not know enough detail about Ojs movements and any alibis he may have had the night before. Long, who witnessed the entire incident, was not harmed. Or at home? "Lawyer - One skilled in circumvention of the law" - The Devil's Dictionary. Glad to see your argument is so >flawed and ridiculous you must attempt to twist people's words around to >try to back it up, since you know you're being ridiculous. You'd rather. It was obvious that he was selling cocaine driving that Mercedes. How many people worked at Mezzaluna? To suggest that Furhman would plant such a key piece of evidence in a capital murder case without knowing more than he had available to him at 5AM is ludicrous. O.J. All this business about other employees of Mezzaluna killed is absolute crap. kk" Now I don't have one computer on my desk, I have millions. There isno motive and no hard evidence. Just howprofessional was that? Cansomeone tell me why he latched on to OJ right from the start as being themurderer? (where Ron Goldman was also a waiter) was shot in the head and killed. 2. He could have gotten a few of those out >before OJ managed to get behind him to cut his throat. Well, Bodziak also agreed that if these imprints were shoeprints, they had to be made by a small shoe. Mezzaluna restaurant, made famous in the O.J. Superman, Captain Marvel, The Incredible Hulk? from my restaurant experience they were all on coke and some ran into trouble, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Michael_Nigg. ** A: Yes. Simultaneous killings would explain the drops on top of Goldman's boot. Or had multiple witnesses who saw him around his property or had phone records that could exonerate him. .c_dVyWK3BXRxSN3ULLJ_t{border-radius:4px 4px 0 0;height:34px;left:0;position:absolute;right:0;top:0}._1OQL3FCA9BfgI57ghHHgV3{-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-ms-flex-pack:start;justify-content:flex-start;margin-top:32px}._1OQL3FCA9BfgI57ghHHgV3 ._33jgwegeMTJ-FJaaHMeOjV{border-radius:9001px;height:32px;width:32px}._1OQL3FCA9BfgI57ghHHgV3 ._1wQQNkVR4qNpQCzA19X4B6{height:16px;margin-left:8px;width:200px}._39IvqNe6cqNVXcMFxFWFxx{display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;margin:12px 0}._39IvqNe6cqNVXcMFxFWFxx ._29TSdL_ZMpyzfQ_bfdcBSc{-ms-flex:1;flex:1}._39IvqNe6cqNVXcMFxFWFxx .JEV9fXVlt_7DgH-zLepBH{height:18px;width:50px}._39IvqNe6cqNVXcMFxFWFxx ._3YCOmnWpGeRBW_Psd5WMPR{height:12px;margin-top:4px;width:60px}._2iO5zt81CSiYhWRF9WylyN{height:18px;margin-bottom:4px}._2iO5zt81CSiYhWRF9WylyN._2E9u5XvlGwlpnzki78vasG{width:230px}._2iO5zt81CSiYhWRF9WylyN.fDElwzn43eJToKzSCkejE{width:100%}._2iO5zt81CSiYhWRF9WylyN._2kNB7LAYYqYdyS85f8pqfi{width:250px}._2iO5zt81CSiYhWRF9WylyN._1XmngqAPKZO_1lDBwcQrR7{width:120px}._3XbVvl-zJDbcDeEdSgxV4_{border-radius:4px;height:32px;margin-top:16px;width:100%}._2hgXdc8jVQaXYAXvnqEyED{animation:_3XkHjK4wMgxtjzC1TvoXrb 1.5s ease infinite;background:linear-gradient(90deg,var(--newCommunityTheme-field),var(--newCommunityTheme-inactive),var(--newCommunityTheme-field));background-size:200%}._1KWSZXqSM_BLhBzkPyJFGR{background-color:var(--newCommunityTheme-widgetColors-sidebarWidgetBackgroundColor);border-radius:4px;padding:12px;position:relative;width:auto} Also, none of the LAPD dectectives knew if Oj had security cameras on his property. MEZCALUNA - 221 Photos & 134 Reviews - Yelp ?A lesser "person" would have left one little shred of evidence asa favor to people who have some desperate inner need to spout suchlame garbage. Those killers would also be out of the immediate flow of blood. >Because my friend, they knew Ron wouldn't go there first but they knew he>would end up there. Thatswhy the initials on the bindles prepared properly by mazzola , wereno longer on the bindles that went to the labs, The real evidenceblood samples from those places were disposed of, and thats why the initials are not there. So one more coincidence isn't so unbelievable. Why go to Bundy and start on Nicole, and wait for Ron to come: > through the gate? Mezzaluna. ._1aTW4bdYQHgSZJe7BF2-XV{display:-ms-grid;display:grid;-ms-grid-columns:auto auto 42px;grid-template-columns:auto auto 42px;column-gap:12px}._3b9utyKN3e_kzVZ5ngPqAu,._21RLQh5PvUhC6vOKoFeHUP{font-size:16px;font-weight:500;line-height:20px}._21RLQh5PvUhC6vOKoFeHUP:before{content:"";margin-right:4px;color:#46d160}._22W-auD0n8kTKDVe0vWuyK,._244EzVTQLL3kMNnB03VmxK{display:inline-block;word-break:break-word}._22W-auD0n8kTKDVe0vWuyK{font-weight:500}._22W-auD0n8kTKDVe0vWuyK,._244EzVTQLL3kMNnB03VmxK{font-size:12px;line-height:16px}._244EzVTQLL3kMNnB03VmxK{font-weight:400;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-metaText)}._2xkErp6B3LSS13jtzdNJzO{-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;margin-top:13px;margin-bottom:2px}._2xkErp6B3LSS13jtzdNJzO ._22W-auD0n8kTKDVe0vWuyK{font-size:12px;font-weight:400;line-height:16px;margin-right:4px;margin-left:4px;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)}._2xkErp6B3LSS13jtzdNJzO .je4sRPuSI6UPjZt_xGz8y{border-radius:4px;box-sizing:border-box;height:21px;width:21px}._2xkErp6B3LSS13jtzdNJzO .je4sRPuSI6UPjZt_xGz8y:nth-child(2),._2xkErp6B3LSS13jtzdNJzO .je4sRPuSI6UPjZt_xGz8y:nth-child(3){margin-left:-9px} >>People who know how to levitate and not leave any physical trace of their>>presence -- except for one of them who just happened to own the exact same>>size and style shoe as Simpson did (but lied about). Marcia Clark explained that no phone records of local calls (with the notable exception of cell phone ones) are kept, so there's no independent confirmation they had a conversation. Simpson: Made in America. ._2a172ppKObqWfRHr8eWBKV{-ms-flex-negative:0;flex-shrink:0;margin-right:8px}._39-woRduNuowN7G4JTW4I8{margin-top:12px}._136QdRzXkGKNtSQ-h1fUru{display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;margin:8px 0;width:100%}.r51dfG6q3N-4exmkjHQg_{font-size:10px;font-weight:700;letter-spacing:.5px;line-height:12px;text-transform:uppercase;-ms-flex-pack:justify;justify-content:space-between;-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center}.r51dfG6q3N-4exmkjHQg_,._2BnLYNBALzjH6p_ollJ-RF{display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex}._2BnLYNBALzjH6p_ollJ-RF{margin-left:auto}._1-25VxiIsZFVU88qFh-T8p{padding:0}._2nxyf8XcTi2UZsUInEAcPs._2nxyf8XcTi2UZsUInEAcPs{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-widgetColors-sidebarWidgetTextColor)} (b) No. > Why not get him walking home from Mezzaluna? [a] Alternative theories of the murders, supposedly shared by Simpson, have suggested they were related to drug trafficking in the Los Angeles area,[4] and that Nigg's was as well; Nigg apparently lived very well for a waiter,[5] and there were some allegations he, too, had been involved in the drug trade while working at the Mezzaluna branch in Colorado before. The Mezzaluna Trattoria, formerly located at 11750 San Vicente Boulevard, was involved in one of Los Angeles' most notorious murders: the O. J. Simpson murder case. The question arises how Nigg could afford to own a Mercedes. One was killed in the same manner as : Ron Goldman and Nicole. The car seen by Park to the left from the Rockingham exit was the murderer's getaway car, and it apparently disappeared by 5:30 a.m. (otherwise, it would be examined by the police, along with the Bronco and Kato's car on Ashford). Why go to Bundy and start on Nicole, and wait for >Ron to come >through the gate? 's innocent! An arm around the neck, squeezing the windpipe, will effectively stop anyone from screaming or shouting, which would explain why the victims weren't able to shout. At the : time of the murder of Ron -- he was having financial problems. Your attempts to re-interpret facts are hilarious. >Remember that Keith Zlomsowitch took off for Florida. Simpson, according to his lawyers, believed that the two had been killed over their involvement in drug dealing in the area, and that other murders at the time were carried out for the same reason. O.J. : >try to back it up, since you know you're being ridiculous. To frame O.J., of course. After O.J. I >don't know whether he was threatened or not, but I never heard that he >died. We don't need the murder weapon. When I picture God I picture Barry Gibb, not Daddy Warbucks with a fuckin' slinky hanging off the side of his head. (a) There was a problem with the plumbing caused by Simpson's showering. Mezzaluna was apparently cursed in the 90's, because they weren't the only ones among the waitstaff to be victims of crimes-- one waiter had his car set on fire and two others just straight up disappeared. [2] The Los Angeles Police Department later arrested three suspects but soon released them for lack of evidence. >By the way, there may have been a number of other footprints at the >scene that weren't so obvious that were either trampled by the cops >moving along through the scene or just washed away at three in the >afternoon. 7. 4 others have disappeared or> > >vanished. >I acknowledge nothing of the sort. I never heard that he has gone to the moon and back.I never heard that he completed the surgical phase of his sex change operation. Why didn't the defense produce OJ's gloves he wore in the photos and videos presented by the prosecution? When Ron was headed over to Nicole's alone it was more convenient for them to be there, killing her as they waited for him to show up. Slick that thing back get some moose; some Tennex. shot some guy, too.There must be a connection somewhere. said in an interview with journalist Ross Becker. ;-). and stabbed repeatedly on the arms and chest. How about when you know you have a sure conclusion to make you don't waste time fantasizing about those mafia hitmen from New York and how they might be involved? Jun 25, 1997, 11:00pm PDT. So if we assume that the shoeprints had been made through the shirt (hence no sharp edges seen in the imprints on jeans), then these shoes could belong to Arnelle! Personally, I'll do more than merely let you say idiotic things like that;I'll encourage you. Why because Ron Goldman's 3 best friends were killed or> > >murdered right after Ron's death. Also itwas intimated the person walked out along the bushes by the walk. I acknowledge nothing of the sort. Despite all the crap about this "having to be" a rage killing, it was. Simpson murder trial, in which he was ultimately acquitted of charges in the deaths of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ronald Goldman, but later found liable in civil court and ordered to pay $33.5 million in damages to their families, according to The New York Times. And why were there no fingerprints found in the Bronco? The news report was that THE LA POLICE said that Nicole was probably atthe wrong place at the wrong time. : I think the saddest thing about the OJ criminal investigation is they. The connection is that they all worked at Mezzaluna. You should hang your head in shame for supporting this claptrap - it's beneath even you. At the : : time of the murder of Ron -- he was having financial problems. http://sites.google.com/site/theojsimpsoncase. Simpson said he was upset when he saw his children associated with the drug scene with which Nicole had apparently become involved. Simultaneous killings would explain the drops on >top of Goldman's boot. By the way, there may have been a number of other footprints at the scene that weren't so obvious that were either trampled by the cops moving along through the scene or just washed away at three in the afternoon. Your imagination is unbelievable. (b) Fuhrman also wears size 12. 70 to 80 police personnel had access. ( missing the Pepitas listed on menu)Order pizza or pasta next visit. Why did blood from the Bundy drops match OJ? The legendary Dr. Henry Lee, the most renowned criminalist who everlived, claimed a footprint left encased in concrete could be that of asecond killer. He has been described as the maitre 'd at the Mezzaluna, and also "Director of Operations". Cha c phn loi 15-06-2022 15-06-2022 Eerie. Its location on San Vicente Boulevard is now a Peet's Coffee and Tea shop. It's a clever team of cops that thinks to take a couple of itty-bitty pieces of rug fluff from someone's car and "plant" them at the murder scene but then make colossal errors such as you're claiming and contaminate all the blood such that it magically becomes O.J. I Just don't understand. Quite an accomplishment in absurdity. Or after he left home en route to Bundy? The once-popular Italian eatery, where Nicole Brown Simpson ate her last meal, served its last pizza two weeks ago and auctioned off its contents yesterday. Mezzaluna, an Italian restaurant . When I travel from South Carolina to NY I always visit Mezzaluna several times a week. Just some smudge planted by the LAPD. Albert Einstein, the greatest physicist and perhaps the smartest manwho ever lived, complained that quantum mechanics was nottheologically sound ("God does not play dice."). 4 others have disappeared or >vanished. DOZENS of leads and inquiries to all manner of people related to this case were followed up on and thoroughly investigated. *********************************************************************************************Because my friend, they knew Ron wouldn't go there first but they knew hewould end up there. investigator alluded to it on the Is O.J Innocent documentary. Too many police connections to the profits from illicit drug trafficking throughout the Los Angeles metro, the Mezzaluna which was one of a 3 restaurant locations of a New York franchise that operated as a wholly owned subsidiary out of Aspen, Colorado that included both Beverly Hills and Brentwood locations. Then there was OJ's organized crime friend, Casimir "Butch" Sucharski, who was machinegunned along with two lady friends at his Miramar, Florida, estate a week or so after OJ was behind bars. I know this isn't a true religion, it says right there in the Bible that God created man in his own image, and I just know he wouldn't wear his hair like that. Comments on small heel-like imprints on Goldman's jeans given in 4(b) apply. Slashed throats. Press J to jump to the feed. Arthritis pain could prevent Simpson from spotting the injury right away. Michael Nigg, a waiter at the Mezzaluna Trattoria in Brentwood. What you are about to read is not a news broadcast. (d) The defense timeline speaks against explanation (c). So when Ron was walking home alone it was more convenient for them to start killing Nicole first and wait for him to show up. Finally, there were parallel line imprints on Goldman's jeans that had heel-like shape. Another Mezzaluna waiter barely survived a car bombing. Wusthof 8-Inch Mezzaluna. Lee only said what they paid him to say, and then when he found out he hadbeen used so ungenteelly, he managed to come up with an excuse, eventhough he was royally pissed off by such unethical treatment by Simpson'slawyers. And you are running on empty in the "proof" department. It was a group of guys, and one of them wasn't Simpson. Simpson-frequented restaurant Mezzaluna Trattoria, Mezzaluna Trattoria was a regular dinner spot for O.J. 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